Brian David Suder

That's our priority.

So if you beat somebody in a club, they still go home or go to jail.

That's their rule.

So I use that as an advantage.

So if somebody happened to owe me money, which really rarely happened because of the way we enforce things, I could beat you up and not get in trouble and have an audience to look at what happens to you if you don't pay us.

So we utilize certain tactics like that

that were effective in our game plan.

I do still do this stuff.

Okay, so a couple things.

Early 2002, I actually got out.

2001, 2002.

I ended up coming back in, okay?

So I came back in and then ultimately retired around 2006.

2002, there's a situation where as I got into the game, and the other thing is I'm working at a law firm still while I'm in this game.

So I'm looking at Nexus, Lexus.

It was before the internet where you get like a CD disc.

You had to analyze the law.

uh the case law and see where really where ecstasy is so the first few years the first year or two was pretty much you're good you're not going to get in trouble um i would talk to police what are you guys doing with people with ecstasy they go we don't really have case law on the books right now just go ahead and we make them you know break it we make them stomp it out in the ground in front of us and that was like having weed that's how it was but later on

they had a group that came in or a task force.

It was a group, both local and Baltimore police and a DA pouring together as a task force.