Brian David Suder

So don't ever talk on the phone.

So if I'm going to go, and it proves right here.

So if I'm going to go ahead and have a meeting, I might call you, but we're going to have a sit-down in a club downtown with a woofer right by our ear so we can whisper into each other's ears and nobody can hear anything at that point.

So it keeps both of us accountable at that point.

So, yeah, I think Freddie was talking to one of his minions on the phone.

When they went back to New Jersey and New York later on, they had me and Tommy taking over at one point.

I wouldn't call them.

I wouldn't talk to them on the phone.

And when Tommy would want to meet with me, we'd meet in person.

So, yeah, so they called one of their people, and they were like, we probably should go ahead and take out Suter next.

But they end up going to court, and they all end up going to prison.

Damn.

I think most of them were drug cases.

I mean, they were finding tens of thousands of E, and then Tommy got better.

He lived, and his testimony put the nail in the coffin for them.

Holy crap.

That's nuts, man.

Oh, you didn't read it?

I don't watch feedback at all.

Because feedback is from the perspective of maybe a kid behind a computer.