Brian David Suder

But one of the guys, the main guy from NSA, he has a whole crew under him.

They're all DOD people.

Holy crap.

Yeah, so a big crew of them ended up... Not one of them got in trouble.

Well, what did happen is when I... So when I retired...

And just like everybody else, all the other big Lords of Baltimore.

So you had a crew, what we call the Lords of Baltimore.

So you have Vincent Magliano at that period of time was the Lords of Baltimore focused on cocaine sales, okay?

But he was a Gambino, and I was just friends with him.

I never worked with them.

I was working with the Gambino faction that came in from Staten Island, a guy named Greg who got busted.

Then he had a guy named Fred Caruso.

His name I could put out there because he got in trouble.

He was the contact for the DiCava contact family.

Mm-hmm.

So Vincent, even though we were friends, I grew up with them.

I knew them my whole life.

He was a prime example of the mafia not working.

Tommy Dixon was in many ways more close to no sure than Vinny.

He would always take a meeting with a member, a family member of the Gambino family.