Brian Greene

And then we're like, wow, the equations do a great job of describing things here, and the equations have this feature that they tell us there's another place over there.

Maybe that's possible.

The key thing also- This is logic in your mind.

Oh, that's always the possibility.

In fact, it's likely the possibility.

In fact, 99.99% of everything we do is wrong, not from the point of view we make a mistake, but... But the wrongness is a deep wrongness.

In terms of whether the math is somehow contradictory and coherent in some way.

Yes, your tools of learning are not working.

Yes, that would suggest that we were both wrong and that there's a deeper overarching framework.

I mean, I...

I hate to use the word faith, but the one point where I'll give you faith is this.

I do have a deep faith that the universe is coherent.

And by universe, call it multiverse, whatever word you want to use, the whole thing.

I do believe that it's coherent.

Now, whether that means it follows mathematical laws, I don't know.

It could be the case that, you know, when we talk to those aliens that we encounter one day and they say, okay, show us what you got.

We bring out our equations and they kind of laugh at us and say, oh, you guys are still stuck on math.

You know, and they said, yeah, you know, a thousand, 10,000 years ago, we were doing math too, but here's the real way of describing it.

Now, what they'd be showing us with the real way of describing it, I have no idea.

I can't even imagine what it would be that would be non-mathematical.