Brian Keating

I actually talked to him with one of his wingmen who's a friend of mine who's a naval veteran, an F-18 pilot, just like Ryan.

And you talk about it.

I would say most of the stories that I've heard, and even people like David Grush, you know, I respect these people, but I have yet to hear them say, here's the physical evidence.

Sean, if these things... They never go the full distance.

They never produce the evidence.

Right.

100%, right.

Exactly.

I can't say that, you know, because I don't have the courage to join.

I wanted to join the military.

I wanted to go into the Air Force.

My stepfather was a fighter pilot in Vietnam and a KC-135 Stratotanker pilot.

I wanted to do it, but, you know, discovered girls.

I'm like, I don't know if I can handle it.

I want to be an F-14 pilot because that's when Top Gun came out when I was a kid.

And then my stepfather's like, you know, you know, they say everyone wants to be a cowboy, but no one wants to ride the range.

You know, like being out on the boat, like my friend Ariel Kleinerman or like Ryan Graves.

Sorry, I just didn't have it.

I wanted to study the stars.

I wanted to not, you know, not miss that opportunity.