Brian Koppelman

And it would have taken three or four or five times as long.

And I would have been worried about my heart.

And I didn't even think about it, right?

Because I'm 60.

I didn't even think about it.

Now, I will say not thinking about it might not have been that great because as much as I lift weights and exercise and throw kettlebells around, walking up all those flights with a pack that's heavy and not built for that purpose, the next two days, my back was pretty jacked up.

And because I'd already I mean, I'd also done that.

I put a barbell on my back after that.

So it was a lot of stuff in a row.

But now we're three days past it and I feel great.

And I did have the next day.

It was like, oh, that was maybe dumb.

But as an exclamation point on the last few years, Michael, and on the influence that comfort crisis had on me.

Which, as you know, hit me not at the beginning of this kind of move I made into trying to get myself in much better physical condition.

But I think anytime you're on a long, like no one knows more about like long missions than you do.

But anytime you're on a long mission, years long mission, maybe a mission that's like for the rest of your life, you hope.

uh, you need things, not just at the beginning, you need things like stages of a rocket.

You need things to propel you into the next part, the next phase.

And cause it's not just like you have one, um, takeoff and you're going, it's like you take off, but then fuel, you know, you run out of fuel or you need a different kind of fuel or you need to a different kind of propulsion.

And, um,