Brian Koppelman

And I think the value of that is...

enormous and has been enormous for me.

And I mean, I just love finding things at my age that still make me ask myself certain questions.

That doesn't mean I don't want to go spend two weeks at a resort.

You know, I've...

If I've worked hard and I have the ability, I mean, I can go on a cushy vacation somewhere.

I'm so happy to go do that.

But even if I do that, I'm going to get in the gym and I'm going to do something really hard and I'm going to rock somewhere.

And if it sucks out, I mean, I don't care.

And that thing, I think of your book all the time, you know, even if I...

Like even if you go on something like an electric bike, which is so easy to battle, but it starts the other day.

I got on the e-bike to bike home.

The bike home's five miles, but it's New York City.

And it was like out of nowhere.

It's a hailstorm.

Awesome.

And it was hail, and I was soaked, and I was like, oh, this is awesome.

It sucked.

I was miserable, and I immediately flipped it.

And I was like, what reps?