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Brian Mann

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Up First from NPR
Trump Economy, Federal Reserve December, Afghan Fighters' Struggles

Good morning, Michelle.

Up First from NPR
Trump Economy, Federal Reserve December, Afghan Fighters' Struggles

Michelle, these were Afghan special forces fighting against the Taliban, but they didn't work for Afghanistan's government.

Up First from NPR
Trump Economy, Federal Reserve December, Afghan Fighters' Struggles

They worked directly for the CIA.

Up First from NPR
Trump Economy, Federal Reserve December, Afghan Fighters' Struggles

They were led by CIA operatives.

Up First from NPR
Trump Economy, Federal Reserve December, Afghan Fighters' Struggles

I spoke with Gita Bakshi.

Up First from NPR
Trump Economy, Federal Reserve December, Afghan Fighters' Struggles

She's a former CIA agent who spent four years in Afghanistan, often working with these zero unit troops.

Up First from NPR
Trump Economy, Federal Reserve December, Afghan Fighters' Struggles

And their tactics were often brutal.

Up First from NPR
Trump Economy, Federal Reserve December, Afghan Fighters' Struggles

Groups like Human Rights Watch accused them of engaging in torture and illegal killings.

Up First from NPR
Trump Economy, Federal Reserve December, Afghan Fighters' Struggles

Thousands of these zero unit soldiers, including Lackinwall, were evacuated to the U.S.

Up First from NPR
Trump Economy, Federal Reserve December, Afghan Fighters' Struggles

in 2021 after the Taliban took control of Afghanistan.

Up First from NPR
Trump Economy, Federal Reserve December, Afghan Fighters' Struggles

NPR reported last week, Michelle, that before the attack in Washington, D.C., Lackinwall appeared to be experiencing a personal crisis.

Up First from NPR
Trump Economy, Federal Reserve December, Afghan Fighters' Struggles

He's since pleaded not guilty to murder and other crimes.

Up First from NPR
Trump Economy, Federal Reserve December, Afghan Fighters' Struggles

Now people involved in these units tell me that many of Lackinwall's fellow Zero Unit fighters have felt similar stress and isolation and despair.

Up First from NPR
Trump Economy, Federal Reserve December, Afghan Fighters' Struggles

They describe feeling betrayed and abandoned by the CIA after years of that frontline combat service experience.

Up First from NPR
Trump Economy, Federal Reserve December, Afghan Fighters' Struggles

They expected to be treated with respect in the U.S., given a chance to start new lives here.

Up First from NPR
Trump Economy, Federal Reserve December, Afghan Fighters' Struggles

Instead, they found themselves tangled in a complicated immigration process, often stuck without permanent asylum or work visas for years.

Up First from NPR
Trump Economy, Federal Reserve December, Afghan Fighters' Struggles

And I spoke about this with one zero-unit fighter named Daoud.

Up First from NPR
Trump Economy, Federal Reserve December, Afghan Fighters' Struggles

Now, Daboud agreed to speak with NPR if we agreed to only use his first name.

Up First from NPR
Trump Economy, Federal Reserve December, Afghan Fighters' Struggles

He said he fears for the safety of his family still living in Afghanistan under the Taliban.

Up First from NPR
Trump Economy, Federal Reserve December, Afghan Fighters' Struggles

He told me when zero-unit fighters living in the U.S.