Brian Maucere

It wasn't that Anthropic was saying, we don't want to work with the War Department.

That's not true at all.

They had two exclusions to that that they felt like they did not want to be involved in.

One was mass domestic surveillance, and the other one is fully autonomous weapons.

And they said, it's not even that we haven't worked with weapon systems.

It's just that we don't feel like AI is at a point where fully autonomous makes sense.

And we don't really want to be in that arena right now.

I don't even think it necessarily said forever.

It was just like, we don't think the AI is capable.

And also mass domestic surveillance.

They were like, look, there's a lot that's legal right now.

AI makes that easy to gather all this together and, and, and compile reports on any one person.

And however you feel about that and big brother and things like that, that's where they put their stance.

Now,

later in there this is how it ends it says regardless these threats do not change our position we cannot in good conscience succeed uh uh to their request it's the department's prerogatives to select contractors most aligned with their vision but given the substantial value that anthropics technology provides to our armed forces back the curls point we hope they reconsider our strong preference is to continue to serve the department and our warfighters with our two uh requested safeguards in place should the department choose to off-board anthropic

We will work to enable smooth transition to another provider, avoiding any disruption to ongoing military planning, operations, or other critical missions.

Our models will be available on the expansive teams we have proposed for as long as required.

We remain ready to continue our work to support the national security of the United States.

So everybody's going to have an opinion on that, but I think it's important that people understand that Anthropic was not blankly refusing to work with the War Department.

In fact, they'd been doing that, just like you said, Carl, for quite some time and having models involved.