Brian O'Hara

And the Somali Americans that I have met here, including many of whom are police officers in this city, have been incredibly welcoming of me.

So from a personal perspective,

It was just bizarre because I'm also aware that the overwhelming majority of people from that community are American citizens.

Well, there is a real problem with fraud in the state.

And unfortunately, that is sort of lost now.

in all of this political rhetoric and sort of the extreme reactions that occur.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yes, absolutely.

Those cases that were brought about, leading to dozens and dozens of prosecutions, were led by the U.S.

Attorney's Office here in Minnesota, as well as the FBI.

I mean, there have been immigration enforcement conducted in Minnesota, but

as long as there has been ICE.

I think the problem is what gets lost in this is it's not necessarily about which laws are being enforced.

It's about how that enforcement is happening.

To the extent that there are well-planned, pre-planned, targeted enforcement against people who are violating the law, I think all of law enforcement can very clearly get behind that.

But to the extent that things are being conducted that may not be well-planned using tactics that generally are not viewed as sound, that may unnecessarily endanger the lives both of law enforcement officers conducting that enforcement

as well as the lives of people in the community.

Certainly those are concerns that I have to deal with and I am responsible for as a professional managing my agency.

Yes.

So we've just gotten a pretty dramatic increase in 911 calls from people in the community related to a lot of the street enforcement that's happening.