Brian Schwartz

is going to pitch to China that to have even better relations, they're going to insist that they crack down more and more on fentanyl and they have to prove that they're doing it pretty regularly.

It was loyalty. Scott Besant was, during the campaign— one of the handful of Wall Street financiers who's willing to go on a limb and say, I am supporting Donald Trump.

It was loyalty. Scott Besant was, during the campaign— one of the handful of Wall Street financiers who's willing to go on a limb and say, I am supporting Donald Trump.

It was loyalty. Scott Besant was, during the campaign— one of the handful of Wall Street financiers who's willing to go on a limb and say, I am supporting Donald Trump.

He did it. He is very straightforward with the president. He doesn't tell the president, don't do tariffs at all. The markets are tanking. He just goes to him, from what I've been told, and lays out what he sees as the facts, and he lets the president decide what to do. And he only pushes so hard.

He did it. He is very straightforward with the president. He doesn't tell the president, don't do tariffs at all. The markets are tanking. He just goes to him, from what I've been told, and lays out what he sees as the facts, and he lets the president decide what to do. And he only pushes so hard.

He did it. He is very straightforward with the president. He doesn't tell the president, don't do tariffs at all. The markets are tanking. He just goes to him, from what I've been told, and lays out what he sees as the facts, and he lets the president decide what to do. And he only pushes so hard.

And that's how, you know, if you want to have success in the Trump administration, that's what you got to do. You've got to kind of lay things out, let it stew for a little bit, and then the president is going to make a decision one way or another. And there is a reason some others from the administration were not brought to Geneva for these talks.

And that's how, you know, if you want to have success in the Trump administration, that's what you got to do. You've got to kind of lay things out, let it stew for a little bit, and then the president is going to make a decision one way or another. And there is a reason some others from the administration were not brought to Geneva for these talks.

And that's how, you know, if you want to have success in the Trump administration, that's what you got to do. You've got to kind of lay things out, let it stew for a little bit, and then the president is going to make a decision one way or another. And there is a reason some others from the administration were not brought to Geneva for these talks.

Scott Besson can be tough, too, but he's very calm, cool and collected in these meetings. That's what I've heard. That's what he said. He's very direct. But there's a difference between being that way and being kind of a brawler. And that makes a big difference when you're talking to people from the Chinese government who are trying to figure this out as well.

Scott Besson can be tough, too, but he's very calm, cool and collected in these meetings. That's what I've heard. That's what he said. He's very direct. But there's a difference between being that way and being kind of a brawler. And that makes a big difference when you're talking to people from the Chinese government who are trying to figure this out as well.

Scott Besson can be tough, too, but he's very calm, cool and collected in these meetings. That's what I've heard. That's what he said. He's very direct. But there's a difference between being that way and being kind of a brawler. And that makes a big difference when you're talking to people from the Chinese government who are trying to figure this out as well.

Well, I tell you, those guys are thick as thieves. I mean, they are clearly very close. And during the meetings, they came off to me kind of like Batman and Robin, right? Scott Besson is the leader in a way because he's more senior from Wall Street. This is somebody that's been in business for a long time. And Jameson Greer is kind of like Robin.

Well, I tell you, those guys are thick as thieves. I mean, they are clearly very close. And during the meetings, they came off to me kind of like Batman and Robin, right? Scott Besson is the leader in a way because he's more senior from Wall Street. This is somebody that's been in business for a long time. And Jameson Greer is kind of like Robin.

Well, I tell you, those guys are thick as thieves. I mean, they are clearly very close. And during the meetings, they came off to me kind of like Batman and Robin, right? Scott Besson is the leader in a way because he's more senior from Wall Street. This is somebody that's been in business for a long time. And Jameson Greer is kind of like Robin.

Yes. Nobody in their right mind would have thought this was going to happen. I mean, you have to understand, you know, from the Wall Street Journal's perspective, we were just following the ball here. And before the talk started, Scott Besson effectively said these were just talks to start talks. That's what he said.

Yes. Nobody in their right mind would have thought this was going to happen. I mean, you have to understand, you know, from the Wall Street Journal's perspective, we were just following the ball here. And before the talk started, Scott Besson effectively said these were just talks to start talks. That's what he said.

Yes. Nobody in their right mind would have thought this was going to happen. I mean, you have to understand, you know, from the Wall Street Journal's perspective, we were just following the ball here. And before the talk started, Scott Besson effectively said these were just talks to start talks. That's what he said.

And so we were going into this with almost zero expectation that anything was going to happen. And then it did.