Brian Stelter

So, you know, Trump's going to continue to try this pressure campaign.

That's what Kimmel said last night.

He said, Trump's not stopping.

And many Trump voters still want to see this happen.

They want revenge.

They want retribution.

They want to punish their perceived enemies.

So I want to recognize, for all that's happened in the past week, there's also this energy out there to try to stick it to Jimmy Kimmel, right?

To try to get him canceled.

And that's not going away either, right, Dan?

In other words, this is, this tug of war is still very much, it's still ongoing.

I think every time a major media company appears to be caving, a new substack is born, a new podcast is born, a new YouTube stream is born.

You know, right now, Kimmel's racking up millions of views for his ABC monologue, but if this goes south, if Disney comes under more government pressure, if the DOJ starts blocking Disney's deals, if Kimmel's show ends next May,

He'll probably be bigger than ever on podcasts.

Yes, in some cases they can.

And some First Amendment scholars wish ABC had gone that route last week.

They wish ABC had gone to court.

i think the reason that didn't happen was because this happened so quickly like literally from 1pm to 5pm eastern time on wednesday afternoon all of this went down all this erupted and abc did what was maybe what they believed was smartest in the moment if this had happened with a little bit more time less time constraints fewer time pressures that legal route may have been the one and

You know, it's important to keep an eye on the courts here because the New York Times throwing out Trump's defamation suit last week.

Sorry, the New York, not New York.