Brian Thomas

And really, that gap is why which led to your founding of Signify, which is pretty cool.

I appreciate that.

Mike, Signified focuses on protecting merchants while enabling growth.

How do you balance fraud prevention with creating a seamless customer experience?

Thank you.

I appreciate that.

And yeah, unfortunately, as companies start to have that growth and starting to get more exposure, obviously that attack surface, right, from fraud or cyber, it doesn't matter.

You're just more of a target.

And I really appreciate what you all are doing in this space to help prevent that.

And Mike, the last question of the day, as we look ahead to the future, how do you see the future of fraud prevention, digital commerce and risk management evolving?

And what role will AI play in shaping this landscape?

Yeah, that's amazing.

You highlighted the advanced AI.

That's kind of, you've heard of Claude's co-work and Claude, some of these work almost 100% independently on most tasks that can be done.

And in your space, obviously you have a lot of data that you can pull in and analyze your good buyers versus areas that risk that you need to address.

But again-

you can augment your team with AI now.

And it's amazing how powerful it is.

So I appreciate you highlighting some of that stuff.

And Mike, it was such a pleasure having you on today.