Bridget Phetasy

But what we were trying to do is I was trying to get people to convert me.

So I'd go to all these different religious groups and say, like, it's pretty easy.

Well, it's just like I want to know who's got the best deal.

Like, what sounds the best?

It opened my eyes.

It did.

Because I got to see what I believe are genuinely kind people who want a good result for human beings.

They really do.

And a lot of them really genuinely believe that their structure, their ideology and way of thinking is really the path to happiness, which is ultimately like the path to God.

Without breaking it down to cult-like thinking and how people get absorbed in ideas that are untenable, that just don't make any sense.

They're completely ridiculous.

But they're scientifically minded people who attach themselves to that if it's a part of their religion.

Without that, what everybody wants is something good, and they think that the way to have something good for the people that join is to sort of demonize the people that aren't joining or demonize the other ones.

It's a tribal thing.

But it's just like all these little patterns of human thinking that we have.

People have it with everything.

You see with cell phones.

You see with Android people versus iPhone people.

It's just a normal human thing.

tribal characteristic that's embedded in our DNA that if we don't address and recognize we're not going to overcome the hurdle because we're going to pretending as if it doesn't exist and as if your side is right and the other side is wrong and not just looking at it like oh we're stuck in a blue versus red white versus black one versus zero it's just a tribal thing that exists in the way we operate and we have to be aware of it