Brittany Luce

Yeah.

Yeah, it's what you see.

It's very much like, it's very much speaking to people that are not us.

Even though there is clearly a strategy for placing these ads, you know, in the middle of these really popular programs, there's still not enough diversity of strategy, in my opinion, to reach as many people as probably need to be reached.

To that point, there will be some people that hear this conversation about Black women and unequal access to PrEP.

and think, what's that got to do with me?

Like, I am a married white man who's been with this same woman for 42 years.

Like, this conversation doesn't have, I don't see myself anywhere in this.

They might think this is unimportant or that it doesn't apply to them.

I wonder, how does Black women's unequal access to PrEP impact everyone, regardless of background?

That is a very important point that you just made.

And to close this conversation very quickly, I'd love to hear from each of you.

I personally believe that sex is an important part of life throughout, I think, an adult's entire lifespan.

But as you mentioned, the kinds of structural supports and institutional supports to help people make health-promoting decisions about their sexual health are suffering to a certain degree right now.

So bearing that in mind, new year, new us, what, from your perspective as professionals, defines safer sex in 2026?

Like, okay, you told me something new just now.

Well, I'll tell you what, with the tips that you all have given, I think that our listeners are going to be well on their way.

Oh, my gosh.

Dr. Abrams, Leisha, thank you both so much.

I really, really enjoyed this conversation.