Brittany Luce

Coming up, how wellness culture can promote conspirituality, meaning the intersection of conspiracy and spirituality.

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Sometimes that kind of intense focus on the self, as we're discussing, doesn't leave much room for the messiness of other people, but also doesn't leave much room for things to be outside of your control.

I think that partially because of that, there are ways in which some of the, you know, body-based spiritualism or spirituality kind of happening is

can curdle into things like orthorexia or even, you know, conspiracy.

I think a lot of us have seen that pop up in the past few years.

Some people have discussed like the wellness to QAnon pipelines.

Wow, I'm sorry.

That's a phrase for the ages.

The flip side of optimism is gullibility.

My gosh, my gosh.

We've been talking a lot about spirituality of the self, the spirituality of these very market-friendly wellness practices.

But let's also talk about the way wellness can show up within religion.

I've seen some reporting that

Churches are now trying to offer some wellness practices like yoga and sound baths.

Do you think that those kinds of spiritual but not religious activities...

could integrate into a more traditional spirituality?

We're talking about the way that different sects of religion and houses of worship have come to adopt wellness practices as a way of drawing people in.

But also, conversely, across the wellness industry, there are all these different kinds of spiritual or spiritual-ish practices happening.

That came from other places like yoga that are now completely divorced from, in many ways at least, they're presented as completely divorced from the spiritualities and the cultures that they come from.