Brittany Luce

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Target sales have plummeted after rolling back DEI policies.

The Red Scare podcast faced backlash after interviewing Hitler-loving conservative pundit Nick Fuentes.

Democratic socialist Soran Mamdani was elected mayor of New York City.

What do all of these have in common?

Well, some people online are saying Woke 2.0 is the culprit.

But is that really the case?

Hello, hello.

I'm Brittany Luce, and you're listening to It's Been a Minute from NPR, a show about what's going on in culture and why it doesn't happen by accident.

We're getting into it with Constance Grady, senior correspondent on the culture team at Vox.

Thanks so much for having me.

And Tyler Harper, staff writer at The Atlantic and co-host of the podcast, Time to Say Goodbye.

Thank you so much for having me.

Okay, so just some background.

As a term, woke has a long history in Black culture, dating back to the early 20th century.

It meant being politically conscious and aware, but to be frank, it was also used a bit tongue-in-cheek.

But in this conversation, we're digging into the way woke is used today as political shorthand for the left.

So first off, before we get to woke 2.0, how would you describe woke 1.0?

Right.