Brittany Luce

And I've seen and I know people in my real life who are parents who have gotten a lot out of feeling seen by other people's experiences.

Like just honestly sharing their difficulties so they feel less alone.

I think that feels like a net positive.

But I also just want to say parenting actually really has become, at least in the States, more involved over the years.

And this has been trending for a while.

According to a 2007 interview with NPR, demographer Suzanne Bianchi said that working mothers...

spent the same amount of time with their kids as non-working mothers, like stay at home mothers did in the 1970s.

And millennial parents are spending even more time with their kids than previous generations.

And I want to say fathers do explain a good portion of that, that, you know, that statistic, but still the mothers are also spending more time with their kids than previous generation.

Um,

the culture of, of time and labor intensive parenting has really ratcheted up.

Sarah, I was gonna, you know, as the, as the mom of the conversation, like, have you seen that parenting has become more time and labor intensive?

Like you've had actually, you know, a good longitudinal view over the past, like 15 or so years, you know, 10, 15 years to be able to look at this.

Do you feel like time, like, like parenting has become more intensive than it, than it was in the past?

You know, something, the last thing I've been thinking, the last thing I want to talk about with this is that like, you know, we're discussing this as like a trend that we're seeing now.

You know, the birth rate has been steadily declining, at least in the United States for the past two decades, I believe.

But

this is not necessarily a new phenomenon.

Like as much as boomer parents might bemoan their lack of grandchildren, as much as, you know, the media might treat Gen Z and millennials lack of interest in, in, in having kids as novel.

Um,