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Brodie Ford

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Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

But what that really underscores is how Oracle's become this poster child of all the AI financing fears.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

It's expected to be negative free cash flow for the next couple of years as it builds massive data centers.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

And the big question has been, how much money will they have to borrow to do that?

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

Will they be able to maintain their investment grade?

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

And they essentially were trying to respond to these concerns and say that, no, we have a solid plan.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

Well, they're expected to get a ton of free cash flow once you look a couple years out, once those OAI contracts and others start flowing.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

And what's particularly interesting today is to see them issue equity.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

And often when that happens, investors don't like dilution and the stock goes down.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

So it's funny to see the stock go up on an equity issuance.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

And what that means is that the company is willing to do what it takes to keep investment grade.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

It does not want to get saddled with some incredible interest rates.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

We've heard a lot of concerns on these loans.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

And so they're trying to show that they're going to do what it takes to maintain a good rating.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

Absolutely.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

And I think what it is, too, is just clarity.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

I mean, there's been so much uncertainty about, hey, is Oracle going to be able to get all of the loans it needs?

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

Is it going to be able to complete this build out seamlessly?

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

Is OpenAI going to pay its bills?

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

That's a lot of the questions that have been weighing on the stock.

Bloomberg Tech
Oracle’s Huge Bond Sale, Musk Eyes SpaceX and xAI Combo

And so kind of any new information that shows a specific plan, almost whatever that plan is, as long as it seems reasonable, is going to be read as good news.

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