Bruce Anderson

I remember the interactions that he had around the Leap Manifesto at the time of Thomas Mulcair's leadership.

But I think he's doing better at, I wouldn't say moderating his tone, but finding a tone of voice that...

that draws people in rather than says trenchant things, but pushes them away.

So I think he probably made the logical choice in the circumstances, but characterizing his alternative as being kind of roaming the country and building up the grassroots, I don't think is the right strategy for him and probably not what he's, he's really going to do.

Can you make a comparison there?

I think the problem is that there's just not enough of a base now.

So they lost critical mass because Jagmeet Singh just wasn't doing what Avi Lewis appears to have the potential to do.

And once you lose so much critical mass, I think it's just hard to kind of draw people out, especially if they feel generally that,

Um, things are going in an okay direction.

I'm talking about young people here.

Um, but the two surveys that we did recently on Quebec separation and, uh, Alberta show again, that the risk scenarios are, are disproportionately with young people and mostly because of the economic fatigue or frustration that they see.

So there's a real market there for an Abby Lewis for sure.

And I think Pierre Paul, yeah, is to some degree having his lunch eaten by a

and potentially down the road, Avi Lewis.

Yeah, look, I'm not the world's biggest monarchist.

You know, probably Chantal is a little bit behind me in the affection for that institution.

But I had been expecting that King Charles was going to go over and do what I thought would be the bidding of the Starmer government, which is to just make nice with Trump, to praise Trump, to acknowledge the greatness of the Trump administration and its

its kind of effect on the world.

And he didn't just not do that.

He kind of did the opposite of it in a way that was sort of consistent with the range of words, verbs, and nouns that you would expect a king to use.