Bruce Anderson

Having said that, I think there's value in her having done her part to set aside this notion that there's some great icy silence or hostility separating the two countries when it comes to the trade talks.

I don't think that's true.

And I think that...

It's part of the currency of how this is discussed that there are people out there who say, well, the Americans are mad at Canada now and they're kind of tired of Canada being reluctant to come to the table or make concessions before coming to the table or whatever it is.

And I'm sure those things get said.

But everything I hear is that those are some messages in a wild and chaotic democracy that don't necessarily reflect the general orientation of the people whose work it is going to be to get to an arrangement with Canada.

And I think we will at some point.

Nor do they necessarily reflect the relationship between these two individuals.

And as I said, I'm probably not going to go farther than what Melanie Shully said in describing what that is.

I think he and Janice Charette, our chief negotiator, and Dominic LeBlanc,

are really closely tied together.

The sense that I have is that this is a team that is in lockstep and they're dealing with the right people.

They're focused on understanding that there are differences in the conversation that the United States is having with Mexico from the one that has to be had with Canada.

And I think they have a pretty good sense of what the points of contention are.

And to Chantal's point, I mean,

I like the way she put it, that we're getting closer to the point where that is going to become a more structured, more deliberate discussion.

We don't know exactly when that's going to happen, but I think the Prime Minister said on many occasions, we're ready.

And so I think it'll be on the other side to indicate that they're ready.

Well, I love the way Rob Canoe calls balls and strikes.

He's become...