Bruce Anderson

And door number two is,

Let's roll up our sleeves and look like we're moving past that phase into maybe a hard negotiation, but a negotiation on the basis of it's better to have a deal than not to have a deal.

And it's understood that Canada has some things that it wants out of a deal.

And we have some things that we want.

To me, the likelihood of Trump.

as unpredictable as he is.

And I hate to, you know, even predict what he would do, but I think the likelihood of him saying, let's go back to door number one, um,

is a lot lower today.

The likelihood that they go down that road of let's work out an arrangement is much greater.

That in and of itself doesn't mean they're going to start saying today things that sound conciliatory.

They're going to do the opposite, which is I think what Chantal was saying.

They're going to try to ratchet up the pressure on us.

They made some changes to the application of steel and aluminum tariffs, which are having a

a more deleterious effect on parts of our economy than what was happening before.

You saw Jameson Greer saying, well, we do want to do more with Canada on energy and critical minerals, but we don't want Canada to try to use that as leverage in the conversation, which is an incredibly hopeful but also naive kind of interjection.

But at least it was better than Canada sucks today.

which is what we were hearing from Howard Lubnick only, what, two weeks ago.

So I think the chemistry is changing, and changing to Canada's advantage, and that's where I think the Canadian political conversation is strange from the conservative standpoint, to be honest.

Yeah, one thing has changed quite a lot.

Okay.