Bruce Anderson

It is his best option is to find a way to be present in the Ottawa conversation where the media are, where people are kind of dialed into who's saying the most interesting things, the most dynamic things, presenting the most compelling case.

Because he does play really well in that marketplace.

If the liberals are going to become vulnerable at some point, it's more likely to happen among young people.

And it's more likely to happen because young people are saying the status quo economically doesn't really work for us.

Works well enough for older people, but it doesn't work for us.

And so they tend to be susceptible to pitches from the populist right, Poliev perspective, but also if somebody could come at them with an argument from the left, a Mamdani style, we've got to shake up the system so it bends more towards your interests.

There's a pretty significant market for that.

And he is pretty good at figuring out how to speak to that without sounding...

I wondered a little bit whether or not he was going to come off as a kind of an obnoxious voice in that.

I remember the interactions that he had around the Leap Manifesto at the time of Thomas Mulcair's leadership.

But I think he's doing better at, I wouldn't say moderating his tone, but finding a tone of voice that...

that draws people in rather than says trenchant things, but pushes them away.

So I think he probably made the logical choice in the circumstances, but characterizing his alternative as being kind of roaming the country and building up the grassroots, I don't think is the right strategy for him and probably not what he's, he's really going to do.

Can you make a comparison there?

I think the problem is that there's just not enough of a base now.

So they lost critical mass because Jagmeet Singh just wasn't doing what Avi Lewis appears to have the potential to do.

And once you lose so much critical mass, I think it's just hard to kind of draw people out, especially if they feel generally that,

Um, things are going in an okay direction.

I'm talking about young people here.

Um, but the two surveys that we did recently on Quebec separation and, uh, Alberta show again, that the risk scenarios are, are disproportionately with young people and mostly because of the economic fatigue or frustration that they see.