Bruce Worrell

And he had a software development company over there.

And then we build a marketing team over there as well.

Uh, combination.

We've, we've certainly bootstrapped quite a bit, but we've raised probably about a million and a half in capital as well.

Through the raise as well as we've, we've put a lot of money in it ourselves.

Well, there are two ways of calculating that.

Um, one is we've taken no income for four years.

Secondarily, so that's – and trust me, we both make good money or we used to make good money.

So that's a commitment.

And then I'd say we both put in hundreds of thousands of dollars each.

Well, I'm kind of a start.

I've done some startups before, so it's not the first leap.

But in general, my feeling about startups is you have to feel compelled enough that, you know, it's going to be a whole.

Usually these things are a marathon.

They're usually not, you know, really quick sprints.

So you have to be committed to the concept and you have to really believe in it.

And then it's got to be the point where you're like, I just got to do it.

That's how we felt about it, my partner and I, and we basically said to do it.

Of course, our wives are just the opposite, like go stay, you know, worked at Microsoft, worked at Amazon, like take the corporate job, do that thing.

And I was like, well,