Bryan Callen

Mark Maron, don't say it.

I mean, I don't get it.

You know, I'm like, I don't know.

He's a vaccinologist.

I think, though, it's another thing.

I think some people have a very traumatic experience when they're younger.

It could be high school.

And you represent an avatar.

of that experience.

So we just spent, I don't know, the first fucking third of this podcast was about fighting, working out, and all that stuff.

There's a physicality there.

You are a physical guy.

You're physically imposing.

You can choke somebody unconscious, punch them in the face, blah, blah, blah.

That meathead persona, that kind of forward tilt, that yang energy, that very hyper male energy,

Some people have a very bad experience with that kind of energy when they're young they might be understand But you have to judge people and of course you do people and pretend that they're course you do He likes to pretend that I'm like a mean job That's what I'm saying is that you've got to like as an adult after a while you have to come to terms with Whatever emotional reaction you have to whatever this avatar is that you've put all this stuff on which we all do I think you've got to take your tell that after a while you gotta go Hey, this is where I got to let go of all that stuff and I got to take the person at face value and

Why did they stop being interested?

Sometimes there's a thing that people do when you're older where you say that person passed me and then you criticize the culture that got them past you, right?

That's interesting.

Oh, that's really interesting.