Bryan Cantrill

Well, I think it'd be interesting to have a class with like a, a LLM maximalist high school English class where it's like, Hey class, you're going to use LLMs to write. And I'm going to use LLMs to grade by the way. And we're all, that's not going to be an excuse for us not using our brains. We're going to really use these things as tools. Yeah.

Well, I think it'd be interesting to have a class with like a, a LLM maximalist high school English class where it's like, Hey class, you're going to use LLMs to write. And I'm going to use LLMs to grade by the way. And we're all, that's not going to be an excuse for us not using our brains. We're going to really use these things as tools. Yeah.

That is really interesting, Simon. That didn't even occur to me. I tend to do a heavy review of my own before I give it to GPT, but then I would notice that that's kind of strange that it didn't notice this kind of grievous error. I got to say, actually, I don't want to speak about him in the third person because he's in the room, but man, Steve Tuck does a very close read on things.

That is really interesting, Simon. That didn't even occur to me. I tend to do a heavy review of my own before I give it to GPT, but then I would notice that that's kind of strange that it didn't notice this kind of grievous error. I got to say, actually, I don't want to speak about him in the third person because he's in the room, but man, Steve Tuck does a very close read on things.

very like you were able to channel, I think your own mother, when you do a read on things where I, I, I've handed you things that I have like reviewed a lot on my own and you find things that I, that, that I, and the many other people have missed, including early age. Yeah, it did. Exactly. Um, But that's really interesting, Simon, that I can't capture.

very like you were able to channel, I think your own mother, when you do a read on things where I, I, I've handed you things that I have like reviewed a lot on my own and you find things that I, that, that I, and the many other people have missed, including early age. Yeah, it did. Exactly. Um, But that's really interesting, Simon, that I can't capture.

Because I have found that it doesn't necessarily find errors. The thing that it finds are kind of structural. The things it'll say is, I think you need a transition sentence here. And it will be like, I have been thinking to myself, I need a transition sentence here. And then it will make a suggestion that is terrible that I discard. Of course.

Because I have found that it doesn't necessarily find errors. The thing that it finds are kind of structural. The things it'll say is, I think you need a transition sentence here. And it will be like, I have been thinking to myself, I need a transition sentence here. And then it will make a suggestion that is terrible that I discard. Of course.

Yes, absolutely. And the other thing I have done is, I mean, the Notebook LM podcast manufacturing, I think, is so mesmerizingly good.

Yes, absolutely. And the other thing I have done is, I mean, the Notebook LM podcast manufacturing, I think, is so mesmerizingly good.

I mean, I know it's using tricks on me of like, you know, it's the ums, the ahs, and the laughing at their own jokes. But man, I just fall right for it. I just think it's just, that is insanely good. And I think it's kind of interesting.

I mean, I know it's using tricks on me of like, you know, it's the ums, the ahs, and the laughing at their own jokes. But man, I just fall right for it. I just think it's just, that is insanely good. And I think it's kind of interesting.

That is amazing. Meanwhile, someone at Notebook LM is like, I told you we cannot have all-you-can-eat compute. We've got to start charging for this thing. The guy spent $1,200 in compute having the banana slugs offer their perspective on the pelicans. But that is great, Simon. I will say I've got one other six-year prediction. I think that post-secondary degrees...

That is amazing. Meanwhile, someone at Notebook LM is like, I told you we cannot have all-you-can-eat compute. We've got to start charging for this thing. The guy spent $1,200 in compute having the banana slugs offer their perspective on the pelicans. But that is great, Simon. I will say I've got one other six-year prediction. I think that post-secondary degrees...

in computer science and, and related disciplines, information science, and so on, uh, go into absolute freefall. And in six years they are below. So I don't know if folks are unaware, but the, the, the degrees in computer science have skyrocketed in the last, even in the last seven, eight years. And we're talking like factors of three higher. Um, and, um,

in computer science and, and related disciplines, information science, and so on, uh, go into absolute freefall. And in six years they are below. So I don't know if folks are unaware, but the, the, the degrees in computer science have skyrocketed in the last, even in the last seven, eight years. And we're talking like factors of three higher. Um, and, um,

Adam, you've been on the pointy end of this with a kid who's interested in computer science and having everything be oversubscribed everywhere. I think a whole bunch of factors are going to come together And I think CS degrees are going to be way off the mark.

Adam, you've been on the pointy end of this with a kid who's interested in computer science and having everything be oversubscribed everywhere. I think a whole bunch of factors are going to come together And I think CS degrees are going to be way off the mark.

I think that there have been some folks, I mean, Adam, not your son, but there have been plenty of people who've done computer science because mom and dad have told me this is what I need to go do to get work. This is not something that's in my heart. And I've always felt that that's kind of cruel to the folks for whom it is in their heart. they're at a disadvantage.

I think that there have been some folks, I mean, Adam, not your son, but there have been plenty of people who've done computer science because mom and dad have told me this is what I need to go do to get work. This is not something that's in my heart. And I've always felt that that's kind of cruel to the folks for whom it is in their heart. they're at a disadvantage.