Bryan Cantrill

I would love to do a Surge reunion, just because that... I mean, do we agree that Archer pays for it? I mean, I think so, right? Yeah, and it's like the guy that hit the jackpot. He pays for it, whether he knows for it or not. No, he doesn't know for it. So I don't know. Did you go to the search conferences, Adam? This is like 2010, 2011, 2012, 13.

I would love to do a Surge reunion, just because that... I mean, do we agree that Archer pays for it? I mean, I think so, right? Yeah, and it's like the guy that hit the jackpot. He pays for it, whether he knows for it or not. No, he doesn't know for it. So I don't know. Did you go to the search conferences, Adam? This is like 2010, 2011, 2012, 13.

Oh man. They were really, really good. They were really good because it was like also feel like it was kind of a jackpot in terms of timing too. You know what I mean?

Oh man. They were really, really good. They were really good because it was like also feel like it was kind of a jackpot in terms of timing too. You know what I mean?

They did, and it was also at an era when it was kind of like before... When folks were hitting these scale issues that weren't just at the hyperscalers. Hyperscalers were not hyperscale at that point. They were all a lot smaller. I don't know. It just felt like those years felt special. And also, it was in Baltimore, which is great. I just... very fond memories of, of surge.

They did, and it was also at an era when it was kind of like before... When folks were hitting these scale issues that weren't just at the hyperscalers. Hyperscalers were not hyperscale at that point. They were all a lot smaller. I don't know. It just felt like those years felt special. And also, it was in Baltimore, which is great. I just... very fond memories of, of surge.

And now you, cause I think that was also, that's an early conference that was, that was making videos available from talks.

And now you, cause I think that was also, that's an early conference that was, that was making videos available from talks.

Yeah. Right.

Yeah. Right.

And you think that YouTube starts in 2006, 2007, which is just not that long ago. And then you hit this kind of era of conferences where, I don't know, a bit of a different kind of a golden era. If you had this kind of pre-recorded golden era that we can all live as in our memory, you had these talks that are all recorded. But also, like, really broadly attended.

And you think that YouTube starts in 2006, 2007, which is just not that long ago. And then you hit this kind of era of conferences where, I don't know, a bit of a different kind of a golden era. If you had this kind of pre-recorded golden era that we can all live as in our memory, you had these talks that are all recorded. But also, like, really broadly attended.

Because, Stephen, people don't have your disposition today of, like, well, I'm just not even going to go to the talk. I'm only going to watch it online. People are definitely watching it in person. But the fact that the recordings are made available, really. And, I mean, what I started to realize after, like, a year or two of this is, like, wait a minute.

Because, Stephen, people don't have your disposition today of, like, well, I'm just not even going to go to the talk. I'm only going to watch it online. People are definitely watching it in person. But the fact that the recordings are made available, really. And, I mean, what I started to realize after, like, a year or two of this is, like, wait a minute.

There are way more people consuming this when it's recorded than are in the room. Right.

There are way more people consuming this when it's recorded than are in the room. Right.

Yeah, and I think that's a very good point because I think when talks became recorded, it did change kind of the tenor of a talk. It was kind of necessarily more of a performance and less of a dialogue. It was not a boff. To go back to kind of the birds of a feather sessions, it was much more of a...

Yeah, and I think that's a very good point because I think when talks became recorded, it did change kind of the tenor of a talk. It was kind of necessarily more of a performance and less of a dialogue. It was not a boff. To go back to kind of the birds of a feather sessions, it was much more of a...

I mean, not necessarily scripted, but definitely not necessarily having that iteration of an idea was not happening as much for sure when you kind of hit that recorded era. And I decided somewhere along in there, like 2013 or 2014, I decided that I'm never giving the same talk twice. And I'm just not going to do that.

I mean, not necessarily scripted, but definitely not necessarily having that iteration of an idea was not happening as much for sure when you kind of hit that recorded era. And I decided somewhere along in there, like 2013 or 2014, I decided that I'm never giving the same talk twice. And I'm just not going to do that.