Bryan Cantrill

I totally agree with you. And so one question I've got with you too, but in terms of like the breakthrough, because to me, the breakthroughs at park are, are not merely technological, but they're also cultural and organizational. And these are breakthroughs that I'm... And this may be a good segue to kind of your own career.

I totally agree with you. And so one question I've got with you too, but in terms of like the breakthrough, because to me, the breakthroughs at park are, are not merely technological, but they're also cultural and organizational. And these are breakthroughs that I'm... And this may be a good segue to kind of your own career.

Well, first of all, I've got... I mean, this is a little intimidating to have this as... I mean, this is like no pressure, by the way. But aren't you Dick Schaub's kid? I'm kind of like... What was it like growing up in the shadow of that? Or is this actually a relief that this stands so tall that I actually don't have to worry about my own sense of intimidation? What was it like?

Well, first of all, I've got... I mean, this is a little intimidating to have this as... I mean, this is like no pressure, by the way. But aren't you Dick Schaub's kid? I'm kind of like... What was it like growing up in the shadow of that? Or is this actually a relief that this stands so tall that I actually don't have to worry about my own sense of intimidation? What was it like?

Or the company's going to hovercraft. I mean, this is like, this is like the laser printer would not be broadly commercialized for another decade. And that's black and white.

Or the company's going to hovercraft. I mean, this is like, this is like the laser printer would not be broadly commercialized for another decade. And that's black and white.

I mean, like you, I mean, I remember like literally seeing the first laser printed thing by a, a, a, a friend whose, whose father was a software engineer, had a laser printer at work and it printed, I printed this thing out, had the laser printed and, whatever, like an agenda for a scout meeting or whatever it was.

I mean, like you, I mean, I remember like literally seeing the first laser printed thing by a, a, a, a friend whose, whose father was a software engineer, had a laser printer at work and it printed, I printed this thing out, had the laser printed and, whatever, like an agenda for a scout meeting or whatever it was.

And I remember like just my eye, I mean, just eye popping, no perforations on the edges. Yeah. Right. Right. No, it's like a dot matrix printer to a laser printer. You're like, this is like, you took this to a professional printer. It just doesn't make sense. I mean, you, That was in 1987. In 1977, it was black and white. You literally started a religion on the spot. No joke.

And I remember like just my eye, I mean, just eye popping, no perforations on the edges. Yeah. Right. Right. No, it's like a dot matrix printer to a laser printer. You're like, this is like, you took this to a professional printer. It just doesn't make sense. I mean, you, That was in 1987. In 1977, it was black and white. You literally started a religion on the spot. No joke.

Randy, I think you had the opportunity to be a prophet. I think you could have been.

Randy, I think you had the opportunity to be a prophet. I think you could have been.

You could have been like the Randy Farians. I thought that was like a ritual suicide or something. No, the Randy Farians were the... They prayed to the laser-printed spaceship gods. The spaceship gods. I would have 100% prayed to the spaceship gods if you showed me a colored laser-printed image in 1977. That is absolutely bonkers. Unthinkable. It is unthinkable.

You could have been like the Randy Farians. I thought that was like a ritual suicide or something. No, the Randy Farians were the... They prayed to the laser-printed spaceship gods. The spaceship gods. I would have 100% prayed to the spaceship gods if you showed me a colored laser-printed image in 1977. That is absolutely bonkers. Unthinkable. It is unthinkable.

There is no modern analog that's going to – wow, that is amazing. I also love that you're making beanbag forts in Xerox PARC. I mean, at what point were you – I mean, in your kind of – so obviously you grow up in the Bay Area, you grow up in Mountain View, or San Jose. Palo Alto and San Jose. Palo Alto, yeah. At what point were you just like, wait a minute, that was Xerox PARC?

There is no modern analog that's going to – wow, that is amazing. I also love that you're making beanbag forts in Xerox PARC. I mean, at what point were you – I mean, in your kind of – so obviously you grow up in the Bay Area, you grow up in Mountain View, or San Jose. Palo Alto and San Jose. Palo Alto, yeah. At what point were you just like, wait a minute, that was Xerox PARC?

I mean, you must, or did you, maybe you had the sense of gravitas at the time, but... No, I really didn't.

I mean, you must, or did you, maybe you had the sense of gravitas at the time, but... No, I really didn't.

You're making beanbag forts in, like, Faneuil Hall or something. I'm like, I'm trying to, what is the analog for this? It's like, it is, it kind of, anyway, it defies analog. It's just really extraordinary.

You're making beanbag forts in, like, Faneuil Hall or something. I'm like, I'm trying to, what is the analog for this? It's like, it is, it kind of, anyway, it defies analog. It's just really extraordinary.