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Bryan Cantrill

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Oxide and Friends
A Half-Century of Silicon Valley with Randy Shoup

Oh, you know, when also like on the one hand, it is kind of like, okay, no more layers, please. Like I need, I need, cause the other thing that we've discovered in a course in oxide is then like you, you get down to enough layers and then the world goes analog again. You're like, what is this? It's like, oh yeah, sorry, digital's a lie. What do you mean digital's a lie?

Oxide and Friends
A Half-Century of Silicon Valley with Randy Shoup

Oh, you know, when also like on the one hand, it is kind of like, okay, no more layers, please. Like I need, I need, cause the other thing that we've discovered in a course in oxide is then like you, you get down to enough layers and then the world goes analog again. You're like, what is this? It's like, oh yeah, sorry, digital's a lie. What do you mean digital's a lie?

Oxide and Friends
A Half-Century of Silicon Valley with Randy Shoup

It's like, no, no, that's what you saw for people need digital. So we've created, but it's actually, this is an analog system. You're like, that is extremely unfortunate. So yeah, the layers never stop. There is an infinity of layers.

Oxide and Friends
A Half-Century of Silicon Valley with Randy Shoup

It's like, no, no, that's what you saw for people need digital. So we've created, but it's actually, this is an analog system. You're like, that is extremely unfortunate. So yeah, the layers never stop. There is an infinity of layers.

Oxide and Friends
A Half-Century of Silicon Valley with Randy Shoup

But yeah, just your point, Randy, like the, you know, when you get into like building these things, you get that kind of reference for all the stuff that comes before you.

Oxide and Friends
A Half-Century of Silicon Valley with Randy Shoup

But yeah, just your point, Randy, like the, you know, when you get into like building these things, you get that kind of reference for all the stuff that comes before you.

Oxide and Friends
A Half-Century of Silicon Valley with Randy Shoup

I totally agree with you. And so one question I've got with you too, but in terms of like the breakthrough, because to me, the breakthroughs at park are, are not merely technological, but they're also cultural and organizational. And these are breakthroughs that I'm... And this may be a good segue to kind of your own career.

Oxide and Friends
A Half-Century of Silicon Valley with Randy Shoup

I totally agree with you. And so one question I've got with you too, but in terms of like the breakthrough, because to me, the breakthroughs at park are, are not merely technological, but they're also cultural and organizational. And these are breakthroughs that I'm... And this may be a good segue to kind of your own career.

Oxide and Friends
A Half-Century of Silicon Valley with Randy Shoup

Well, first of all, I've got... I mean, this is a little intimidating to have this as... I mean, this is like no pressure, by the way. But aren't you Dick Schaub's kid? I'm kind of like... What was it like growing up in the shadow of that? Or is this actually a relief that this stands so tall that I actually don't have to worry about my own sense of intimidation? What was it like?

Oxide and Friends
A Half-Century of Silicon Valley with Randy Shoup

Well, first of all, I've got... I mean, this is a little intimidating to have this as... I mean, this is like no pressure, by the way. But aren't you Dick Schaub's kid? I'm kind of like... What was it like growing up in the shadow of that? Or is this actually a relief that this stands so tall that I actually don't have to worry about my own sense of intimidation? What was it like?

Oxide and Friends
A Half-Century of Silicon Valley with Randy Shoup

Or the company's going to hovercraft. I mean, this is like, this is like the laser printer would not be broadly commercialized for another decade. And that's black and white.

Oxide and Friends
A Half-Century of Silicon Valley with Randy Shoup

Or the company's going to hovercraft. I mean, this is like, this is like the laser printer would not be broadly commercialized for another decade. And that's black and white.

Oxide and Friends
A Half-Century of Silicon Valley with Randy Shoup

I mean, like you, I mean, I remember like literally seeing the first laser printed thing by a, a, a, a friend whose, whose father was a software engineer, had a laser printer at work and it printed, I printed this thing out, had the laser printed and, whatever, like an agenda for a scout meeting or whatever it was.

Oxide and Friends
A Half-Century of Silicon Valley with Randy Shoup

I mean, like you, I mean, I remember like literally seeing the first laser printed thing by a, a, a, a friend whose, whose father was a software engineer, had a laser printer at work and it printed, I printed this thing out, had the laser printed and, whatever, like an agenda for a scout meeting or whatever it was.

Oxide and Friends
A Half-Century of Silicon Valley with Randy Shoup

And I remember like just my eye, I mean, just eye popping, no perforations on the edges. Yeah. Right. Right. No, it's like a dot matrix printer to a laser printer. You're like, this is like, you took this to a professional printer. It just doesn't make sense. I mean, you, That was in 1987. In 1977, it was black and white. You literally started a religion on the spot. No joke.

Oxide and Friends
A Half-Century of Silicon Valley with Randy Shoup

And I remember like just my eye, I mean, just eye popping, no perforations on the edges. Yeah. Right. Right. No, it's like a dot matrix printer to a laser printer. You're like, this is like, you took this to a professional printer. It just doesn't make sense. I mean, you, That was in 1987. In 1977, it was black and white. You literally started a religion on the spot. No joke.

Oxide and Friends
A Half-Century of Silicon Valley with Randy Shoup

Randy, I think you had the opportunity to be a prophet. I think you could have been.

Oxide and Friends
A Half-Century of Silicon Valley with Randy Shoup

Randy, I think you had the opportunity to be a prophet. I think you could have been.

Oxide and Friends
A Half-Century of Silicon Valley with Randy Shoup

You could have been like the Randy Farians. I thought that was like a ritual suicide or something. No, the Randy Farians were the... They prayed to the laser-printed spaceship gods. The spaceship gods. I would have 100% prayed to the spaceship gods if you showed me a colored laser-printed image in 1977. That is absolutely bonkers. Unthinkable. It is unthinkable.

Oxide and Friends
A Half-Century of Silicon Valley with Randy Shoup

You could have been like the Randy Farians. I thought that was like a ritual suicide or something. No, the Randy Farians were the... They prayed to the laser-printed spaceship gods. The spaceship gods. I would have 100% prayed to the spaceship gods if you showed me a colored laser-printed image in 1977. That is absolutely bonkers. Unthinkable. It is unthinkable.