Bryan Hayes

Yeah, and that's what's going to happen.

Listen, we've talked about them.

There's two separate conversations with Babcock.

The coach is one thing, and the person is the other.

You know, Daniel Winnick was on the morning show this morning.

I've seen a lot of former players doing the rounds recently.

And it was a refresher because we talked about it a lot when he was let go in 19, when he popped up again in 23 in Columbus.

But he's been largely out of the limelight for four or five years.

And, like, I don't recall a coach in the league in the last 25 years –

who is truly despised the way he is by a lot of his former players.

It actually is pretty wild to hear how many players genuinely hate Mike Babcock.

If he isn't as sharp, Noodles.

I think that's a legitimate question.

If he's softened, then what is he now as a coach?

Johan Franzen was not a fringe player.

I don't think Chelios is his biggest fan.

Chelios is one of the all-time great players.

Well, he's won them over.

He got the job.

Mike Medano, there's another guy.