Bryan Michael Cox

They would sign Dwayne Wiggins.

They would go and work, you know, turn and turn and turn.

They would go off to Oakland and work with him.

They'd go to Atlanta, work with Dale Simmons.

So it was really a mystery, you know what I mean?

And I was privy to a lot of that information early on because we had gotten close and my mom would let me call them long distance when they would be out of town, you know what I mean?

And they would play songs over the phone and, you know what I mean, bring songs back.

And

that was really the gateway for me to know that it's actually possible.

You know what I mean?

Like something that was like, when you're 16 years old, you know, 17 years old, it's such a, it's like a dream.

You know what I mean?

And then you have friends and it's tangible and they're bringing, you know,

music back and that's back from producers that you read on credits and it's like yo this is ill i can actually go do this you know what i mean um i always give credit credits to when it comes to matthew knows and those family and like always because that family showed me that it was like

No, this is tangible.

It's possible.

This is real.

Early, early ones?

Early ones.

So I was in a collective as a producer by the name of Greg Curtis, who's my mentor.