Bryn Hall

Well, you think about how well Dalton Papali'i was playing and then Anton Seckner moving into that seven jersey.

He really has helped shore up that gap.

He's been tremendous.

And it's always a fascinating question, this one, because it's just a position, the loose forward positions.

We always seem to have so many good players.

And you look around the country, young Casey, I just think, gosh, he's got some star quality, that guy as well.

But to me, Seckner, you look at his numbers.

You know, the meters after contact, strong carries.

He's really learned to use his body and his power very effectively.

And I would be, it's got to the point now, I'd be surprised if he wasn't in the All Blacks for the start of the year, even for the early part of the year.

I think he's played his way into contention.

But his other strengths, his defense is very good.

His tackle stats are good.

Really good.

High completion rate.

And as I say, that line-out game that he's really developed and he has definitely been, in a Blues team that's kind of fired and fits and starts a bit this year, he has been consistently outstanding.

I will chuck a name in and probably for the younger people watching won't mean so much but for older people it will and that's Ian Kirkpatrick because Ian Kirkpatrick was a guy that I idolised when I was growing up and he was a flanker for the All Blacks who when he got the ball it was just this...

a combination of athleticism uh power it's the ferocity of the carry and i think that's what lucas casey's doing is that he's learning that when he really brings that that ferocity uh he is hellishly hard to stop and even poor old damien mckenzie you know copping that

trying to tackle them.

Look what happened there.