Bryon Gustafson

And that's just how it was early on when we were in Iraq.

And I never made it to Afghanistan.

I've heard it's pretty similar.

Okay.

So Brian came with us on a trip in 2000, or was that 2021?

It was 21 or 22.

22.

Can I add something to it too?

Having served with a guy who got to be an instructor with him.

Oh, you know this person well.

Very well, yeah.

Like Brian was saying, he's one of the founding members for the Montana Vet Program.

I've got

plan here it's gonna work its way out to save your life um but in the marine corps an exceptional exceptional uh operator thinker capable of doing tons of military style um you know needs work whatever task short-term tasks yeah and feelings aren't involved because you just do what i say and the task is this get you know goal is this let's go get it done we work together for the most part feelingless i've seen marines cry

Yeah.

Fair enough.

And you just bury that shit way, way deep down under the JD.

Right.

But and so exceptional guy, you know, but when it comes to like working with civilians, I would say, yes, there is sometimes frustrations for him when dealing with.

you know folks that don't just take orders and so but to your point i would say that yeah a lot of times i think especially when it comes to disability related to psychological issues the majority of that you're bringing in one thing that you could reconsider is uh the testing that we do prior to letting folks into the military a lot of times and you might have seen this it sounds like bob could have fallen into this category maybe he should have never been there in the first place now how do you get