Bryon Gustafson

You know, you had made mention earlier about you don't know folks.

I can't remember exactly how you'd say this, but finding out who a person really is.

One of the best ways to do that is through suffering and stress and terrible behavior.

A terrible situation, right?

Yeah.

They don't want to hear it.

Yeah, like suffering kind of is the universe's no, right?

Like everything's going good and then something hits you in the face and now, oh shit, I gotta take this on.

Yeah, it's exactly that.

And when people get to see

how they react and then now we get to mirror them right when they're on a trip with us and we're out there suffering just right alongside with you but we're going to do it with a smile on our face because we know that this is just temporary we're going to move through this we're going to get through this as a team so now you wanting to get all pouty and be a little bitch out there right and fall back into that little victim mentality that you have

Go for it.

See how far that gets you with the rest of the group who is standing here still enjoying themselves.

And now you have to do some personal insight or reflection into who you are.

You know what I mean?

It causes that.

I think some of it comes from the Vietnam veteran, right?

And so...

I always have to say this is I have so much respect and admiration for the Vietnam veteran for all that they did before us.

They went into a meat grinder that was a complete bullshit war, in my opinion.