Bryon Gustafson

He's not doing much for the team.

Probably isn't getting the radio up.

Probably isn't able to fix the radio if it gets hit, calms, or kind of down, whatever it may be in that situation.

But it seems like, to me, being able to build into and help folks understand that step one to get out of that, right, is breathe.

Like, let's engage our prefrontal cortex.

You got to breathe, right?

Cigarettes will help, right, just because...

But we got to breathe, dude.

We got to re-engage our brain.

And then we got to find step one.

What is step one?

What is a goal?

I need you to find a goal, even for the folks that are out doing the IED sweeps.

And I do remember that era when it was go find IEDs by stepping on them.

I remember that I was over right before Fallujah.

We were running around in Humvees that had

They didn't even have the high backs yet.

We just had the fiberglass rails, and we didn't have any type of flooring.

Flat bottoms?

Well, they weren't like flat bottoms, but they had the rails that would in the fold up seating in the back, is that what you call them?