Caitlin V

I think the way that women are socialized,

the way that women sort of like interact with each other is already to build more of a network of relationships.

And more frequently.

And yeah, and with more folks.

And again, we evolved also to do that because this is part of what allows us to care for and raise children, right?

And so women have had all these like protective factors against extreme social isolation and they're still experiencing it too.

So men have less of those protective factors and so they're feeling it even worse.

I mean, what are your thoughts?

Why do you think that is?

No, no, no.

There's literally nothing in there actually.

I think we realized for me anyways, I realized really the ways in which I took those relationships for granted because I thought that they would just always be there.

I didn't even know what they were doing for me, but the power of community was really holding for me.

Yeah, I think the consequence of the amount of isolation that people experience combined with the fact that when you reduce another person to like a single picture, right?

Like a profile picture, they're this big,

That's everything you've got, right?

You've got like 150 characters or so many words of an Instagram bio and then some images from their life.

And then you feel like you have enough information to make an assessment about this person, about their character, about their interests, about whether or not you would ever be friends.

And then furthermore, you feel like you have space and freedom behind the screen to say anything to them, anything at all.

If that person was behind you at the grocery store,