Caitlin V

I like your perspective that they're going to have to go through it eventually.

Well, I guess if you want to date, marry, have kids, then I don't know how you skip it.

The good news is that we're all idiots.

You're not special.

I think that's the other piece of this.

You said it earlier.

We all kind of believe that we are alone and we're the only one who's dealing with the thing that we're dealing with.

And we're not.

Everybody's got it.

version of the thing that you've got and when you don't talk to other people about it even if that person is like a professional but it's like certainly if you don't talk to another human being especially one who looks like you especially if you're a man if you don't talk to another man or another guy your age or roundabout about the thing then you are going to continue to live with the illusion that you are alone and you're not right and and feeling that you are alone is the thing that causes you to isolate you you then you do become alone

Right.

We don't.

But here's what I think.

If I had to, like, offer a prescription for the world, I actually think I would take it all the way back to pleasure.

I would teach people how to experience and prioritize and feel like they have autonomy in the things that bring them pleasure.

It doesn't necessarily it shouldn't be limited to sex.

In fact, if sex is your only source of pleasure, you are setting yourself up to fail because you're going to put way too much pressure on sex.

Right.

But if it is

doing hot yoga that brings you pleasure if it is fishing that brings you pleasure if it is working and building with your hands that brings you pleasure if it is like being in community and making food and feeding the people that you love but like focusing on the things that like allow for you to feel good like just good for good's sake things that bring light to other people that bring joy to other people because those are the most satisfying things anyways