Cal Newport

And everyone thought I was crazy.

And 10 years later, it just kind of jumped from I was crazy to it's common sense.

So it's not even that interesting that I'm saying it anymore.

So I kind of skipped the part where it sounded prescient.

I think certainly on a couple issues.

The social media issue was a big one because I used to get a lot of flack for that.

For going out, and I wasn't even saying the social media was bad or that no one should use it.

Really what I was pushing back on was just the idea of ubiquity.

The idea that everyone had to use it.

I said, this doesn't make sense.

I get there's some people this makes sense for.

There's a lot of technologies that have markets that make sense for it.

But why is there this pressure for everyone to be on these services?

This is not going to a good place.

They're spending a lot of money to mine attention, and they're going to get better at it, right?

And at the time, this was considered crazy.

What do you mean, like, you wouldn't use social media?

I wrote a New York Times op-ed back.

I looked this up the other day.

It was 2016.