Cal Newport

So I don't know, maybe help me understand this.

There's like a difference between having a full schedule that's intentional and being overwhelmed.

And you might say you're busy in both cases, but there's two different things going on here.

So what is it about...

Having a lot of things to do if they're the right things feels good.

Having a lot of things to do when they're not those things can feel bad.

How do we distinguish – like what's going on here?

What distinguishes between these two states?

Right.

We like going to the spa, for example.

If you're thinking about having nothing to do, we'll do a little bit of time of like, oh, I don't have to do anything.

I can just sit here and I relax.

But really, there's only so much of that that we actually enjoy.

Like if you actually scheduled into your schedule, here's time where I'm just going to sit in a chair.

I have nothing I need to do.

We actually get pretty antsy.

So what we're looking for is not free time that stays free.

Right.

We're looking for meaningful activity to do with our time.

And those are two different things.