Caleb Gilbert

That's wild.

You were exposed to it in a random encounter.

How does it start, though?

I mean, I'm assuming you got to get your foot in the door somewhere.

Yeah, probably.

if it's anything like the new guy cycle I'm familiar with, not doing the sexiest jobs.

How long are those schools?

Yeah.

Okay.

So you go to the course.

Do you have a job with a company before you do that?

So you're, oh, so you're self-funding.

I have no real familiarity with the ecosystem out there protecting high net worth people, but I have to assume there are.

categories or layers, like with your A-listers being up top and then guarding the parking lot.

We'll call that maybe more towards the bottom.

We won't call it the bottom.

Closer, fewer rungs down the ladder.

I'm sure there's everything in between.

How long does it take to go from that parking lot job to getting into those, the A-list category?

I'm assuming that's the, if that's what you went to Hollywood for, that's what you're probably trying to do in the EP world?