Caleb Hammer

Well, they're gonna force you to use it his way.

That's not very personal finances.

Rocket Money, they got a lot of commercials, but they're owned by Rocket Mortgage.

Guess what they wanna sell you in the end?

Then there's the new guy on the block, Monarch.

Hundreds of millions of dollars of private equity raising so far?

But private equity doesn't have the best track record when it comes to private data.

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You're not abusing a system if we say everyone gets a pension.

That's not an abuse, that's an automatic thing.

Potentially.

It would probably be less amount per person.

It would probably be a less amount of money.

Buddy, obviously I don't have a proposal in front of me with a mathematical amount nor am I asking you to provide an amount of money that you think is valid or invalid for people.

That wouldn't be fair in this argument.

Which you're not willing to criticize.