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Absolutely, yeah. I grew up sort of, like, middle, lower middle class, and, like... playing football specifically. And I grew up playing mostly like soccer and baseball, a little bit of basketball, but I sort of like, I sort of ended up playing football when I was like a teenager because I was large and that's how that works.

Absolutely, yeah. I grew up sort of, like, middle, lower middle class, and, like... playing football specifically. And I grew up playing mostly like soccer and baseball, a little bit of basketball, but I sort of like, I sort of ended up playing football when I was like a teenager because I was large and that's how that works.

And like, in terms of like connecting with people who weren't white and of my exact class status or higher, like football is how it happened, man. Like most of my like earliest friends, Friendships with black kids, with Hispanic kids, was, like, all through football. And, like, it is a, like, very interesting sort of, like, class and racial melting pot, at least at, like...

And like, in terms of like connecting with people who weren't white and of my exact class status or higher, like football is how it happened, man. Like most of my like earliest friends, Friendships with black kids, with Hispanic kids, was, like, all through football. And, like, it is a, like, very interesting sort of, like, class and racial melting pot, at least at, like...

And like, in terms of like connecting with people who weren't white and of my exact class status or higher, like football is how it happened, man. Like most of my like earliest friends, Friendships with black kids, with Hispanic kids, was, like, all through football. And, like, it is a, like, very interesting sort of, like, class and racial melting pot, at least at, like...

I went to a pretty big suburban middle and high school. But lots of very different kinds of people ended up at my school. And lots of very different kinds of people ended up playing football. And you're going to get a more diverse slice of that student population on a football team than you will... on the fucking yearbook committee or in, like, school band, class government, whatever.

I went to a pretty big suburban middle and high school. But lots of very different kinds of people ended up at my school. And lots of very different kinds of people ended up playing football. And you're going to get a more diverse slice of that student population on a football team than you will... on the fucking yearbook committee or in, like, school band, class government, whatever.

I went to a pretty big suburban middle and high school. But lots of very different kinds of people ended up at my school. And lots of very different kinds of people ended up playing football. And you're going to get a more diverse slice of that student population on a football team than you will... on the fucking yearbook committee or in, like, school band, class government, whatever.

All of that came very naturally to me in terms of writing this book where, like, I've ended up with a book that's, like, quite diverse, but I didn't really do that on purpose. Mm-hmm. I just kind of like, who are the kinds of kids who end up playing football? And it's like everyone.

All of that came very naturally to me in terms of writing this book where, like, I've ended up with a book that's, like, quite diverse, but I didn't really do that on purpose. Mm-hmm. I just kind of like, who are the kinds of kids who end up playing football? And it's like everyone.

All of that came very naturally to me in terms of writing this book where, like, I've ended up with a book that's, like, quite diverse, but I didn't really do that on purpose. Mm-hmm. I just kind of like, who are the kinds of kids who end up playing football? And it's like everyone.

You have like, poor-ish kids like Grace, and then you have like, rich-ish kids like Ahmed or Dre in my book, who like, I very much wanted to like, show that like,

You have like, poor-ish kids like Grace, and then you have like, rich-ish kids like Ahmed or Dre in my book, who like, I very much wanted to like, show that like,

You have like, poor-ish kids like Grace, and then you have like, rich-ish kids like Ahmed or Dre in my book, who like, I very much wanted to like, show that like,

maybe one of the reasons that Grace is going to end up having a more coherent politics is because, like, she has friends of different backgrounds that she might not if she had not ended up playing this... this, like, fucked-up, evil, violent game, to be clear. Yeah.

maybe one of the reasons that Grace is going to end up having a more coherent politics is because, like, she has friends of different backgrounds that she might not if she had not ended up playing this... this, like, fucked-up, evil, violent game, to be clear. Yeah.

maybe one of the reasons that Grace is going to end up having a more coherent politics is because, like, she has friends of different backgrounds that she might not if she had not ended up playing this... this, like, fucked-up, evil, violent game, to be clear. Yeah.

I mean, I think any football fan who is honest with themselves and has politics that are not evil has a very complicated relationship to the game for, like...

I mean, I think any football fan who is honest with themselves and has politics that are not evil has a very complicated relationship to the game for, like...

I mean, I think any football fan who is honest with themselves and has politics that are not evil has a very complicated relationship to the game for, like...