Calley Means

Callie went on to co-author a book with his sister, Dr. Casey Means, called Good Energy, and he founded a company called TrueMed. Today, he maintains deep skepticism of big food and big pharma, and he contends that these industries have economic incentives not to make Americans well, but to keep us sick.

Callie went on to co-author a book with his sister, Dr. Casey Means, called Good Energy, and he founded a company called TrueMed. Today, he maintains deep skepticism of big food and big pharma, and he contends that these industries have economic incentives not to make Americans well, but to keep us sick.

Kelly, what do you hear as the main pushback against you? What do your critics argue?

Kelly, what do you hear as the main pushback against you? What do your critics argue?

Kelly, what do you hear as the main pushback against you? What do your critics argue?

I've seen some of the ad hominem attacks. I wonder if you can explain that aspect of your message. Why does everything, because you know that many people will be turned off by kind of what they view as conspiratorial thinking. Might it make sense to temper this a little bit? Do you think part of the problem is, like, you know, it sounds a bit nutty, someone might say, right?

I've seen some of the ad hominem attacks. I wonder if you can explain that aspect of your message. Why does everything, because you know that many people will be turned off by kind of what they view as conspiratorial thinking. Might it make sense to temper this a little bit? Do you think part of the problem is, like, you know, it sounds a bit nutty, someone might say, right?

I've seen some of the ad hominem attacks. I wonder if you can explain that aspect of your message. Why does everything, because you know that many people will be turned off by kind of what they view as conspiratorial thinking. Might it make sense to temper this a little bit? Do you think part of the problem is, like, you know, it sounds a bit nutty, someone might say, right?

The idea that everybody is in league to keep Americans sick.

The idea that everybody is in league to keep Americans sick.

The idea that everybody is in league to keep Americans sick.

I'm going to push just a little bit further on this, Kelly, because there are statements of fact that you are making. Yes. And they will pass a fact check. It's it's the idea that pharmaceutical companies want to keep us sick. I didn't say that. Companies want to keep us.

I'm going to push just a little bit further on this, Kelly, because there are statements of fact that you are making. Yes. And they will pass a fact check. It's it's the idea that pharmaceutical companies want to keep us sick. I didn't say that. Companies want to keep us.

I'm going to push just a little bit further on this, Kelly, because there are statements of fact that you are making. Yes. And they will pass a fact check. It's it's the idea that pharmaceutical companies want to keep us sick. I didn't say that. Companies want to keep us.

Well, the economic incentive is the want. I mean, it's America. It's a capitalist society.

Well, the economic incentive is the want. I mean, it's America. It's a capitalist society.

Well, the economic incentive is the want. I mean, it's America. It's a capitalist society.

What are their motivations?

What are their motivations?

What are their motivations?