Cameron Gleeson

Rocket Lab is another.

They had 21 successful launches last year.

They are also involved in terms of government contracts, building a satellite network for missile detection.

So there's a number of these sort of emerging rocket companies that are lowering the barriers for others to build on the application layer above that.

Well, I think, I mean, whatever you think of Elon Musk, he's clearly a maverick.

And he challenged in the automotive space with Tesla.

And he sort of had a very specific vision, which is obviously that the humans should be an interplanetary species.

And a step in that vision is really commercializing and bring down the economics of spaceflight.

And, you know, while his long-term goal may be to get to Mars, the next, you know, version of, you know, his rocket platform, which is the Starship rockets, be able to carry between 100 to 150 tons of material into space.

It's really about sort of building on that sort of technology and know-how and doing it in a way which is sort of different to the way, you know, a government would approach these things.

We often talk about Silicon Valley being, you know, move fast, break things.

We don't want to, you know, break too many things in space, but...

Perhaps there is an element of risk-taking where commercial operators were prepared to push boundaries that a government which, you know, couldn't necessarily afford to have a disaster like.

I remember growing up as a kid, the Challenger disaster.

You know, these sorts of things, you know, set the government space program back for years.

And what that's also done is it's enabled the government to sort of look to play catch up with Artemis II, the US government looking to go back to the moon.

So in a way, really, he has been a maverick, a pioneer, but he's enabled others to follow that vision, follow that dream.

And, you know, you tend to get a bit of cross-pollination, individuals moving from one organization to another.

So building up that institutional knowledge as to how to do this and do this effectively.

Yeah, there are a couple of companies here in Australia who do rocket launch.