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Cameron Gleeson

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Australian Finance Podcast
Is AI in a bubble? Cameron Gleeson on the barbell strategy for AI investing.

And you've got Alibaba and Tencent in China as well.

Australian Finance Podcast
Is AI in a bubble? Cameron Gleeson on the barbell strategy for AI investing.

So it's not just US players there.

Australian Finance Podcast
Is AI in a bubble? Cameron Gleeson on the barbell strategy for AI investing.

No, that's revenue, isn't it?

Australian Finance Podcast
Is AI in a bubble? Cameron Gleeson on the barbell strategy for AI investing.

Yeah, yeah.

Australian Finance Podcast
Is AI in a bubble? Cameron Gleeson on the barbell strategy for AI investing.

So if you want to sort of – it depends on how far you want to stretch what we call the AI supply chain or value chain.

Australian Finance Podcast
Is AI in a bubble? Cameron Gleeson on the barbell strategy for AI investing.

If we start – and obviously you can go further into commodities, which I'm sure we'll touch on.

Australian Finance Podcast
Is AI in a bubble? Cameron Gleeson on the barbell strategy for AI investing.

But if we start at, for example, the semiconductor foundries and –

Australian Finance Podcast
Is AI in a bubble? Cameron Gleeson on the barbell strategy for AI investing.

In particular, there's obviously a large number of U.S.

Australian Finance Podcast
Is AI in a bubble? Cameron Gleeson on the barbell strategy for AI investing.

semiconductor manufacturers.

Australian Finance Podcast
Is AI in a bubble? Cameron Gleeson on the barbell strategy for AI investing.

A lot of them don't actually – well, they're more design companies, and they're actually – a lot of those chips are manufactured in foundries in Asia.

Australian Finance Podcast
Is AI in a bubble? Cameron Gleeson on the barbell strategy for AI investing.

TSMC in Taiwan is a leader there, but also the memory chip makers.

Australian Finance Podcast
Is AI in a bubble? Cameron Gleeson on the barbell strategy for AI investing.

Yeah, TSMC.

Australian Finance Podcast
Is AI in a bubble? Cameron Gleeson on the barbell strategy for AI investing.

SK Hynix and Samsung in Korea.

Australian Finance Podcast
Is AI in a bubble? Cameron Gleeson on the barbell strategy for AI investing.

We can sort of talk about that ecosystem through to the semiconductor companies, the hyperscalers, and then the application layer.

Australian Finance Podcast
Is AI in a bubble? Cameron Gleeson on the barbell strategy for AI investing.

So for example, software companies that might build products on the large language models.

Australian Finance Podcast
Is AI in a bubble? Cameron Gleeson on the barbell strategy for AI investing.

And then beyond that, we talk about the end customers.

Australian Finance Podcast
Is AI in a bubble? Cameron Gleeson on the barbell strategy for AI investing.

So how does a bank then take advantage of AI and

Australian Finance Podcast
Is AI in a bubble? Cameron Gleeson on the barbell strategy for AI investing.

to services and customers, whether it might be for fraud detection or processing loans or whatever it might be.

Australian Finance Podcast
Is AI in a bubble? Cameron Gleeson on the barbell strategy for AI investing.

So we sort of think about that value chain.

Australian Finance Podcast
Is AI in a bubble? Cameron Gleeson on the barbell strategy for AI investing.

This year, you know, the clear winners over the start of this year have been in that what we call that hardware layer or the semiconductor chip makers.