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But they're like, I can tell when sometimes the podcast is not for other people because like, oh, you're not, you're not telling me what to do. And I was just like, because there's no formula. And Chris made the point. He's like, listen, this is how I got there. But there's six other ways. There's 15 other ways. There's like, you could do all, there's no, there's no right way.

It's the right way for you.

It's the right way for you.

It's the right way for you.

I was listening to Michael Dell's autobiography. which is really excellent. The second one, he wrote two, but they're both good. But the second one is the one I was listening to. And for the longest time, I kept talking about the importance of building a life and business as a by-product of that, that's authentic to you.

I was listening to Michael Dell's autobiography. which is really excellent. The second one, he wrote two, but they're both good. But the second one is the one I was listening to. And for the longest time, I kept talking about the importance of building a life and business as a by-product of that, that's authentic to you.

I was listening to Michael Dell's autobiography. which is really excellent. The second one, he wrote two, but they're both good. But the second one is the one I was listening to. And for the longest time, I kept talking about the importance of building a life and business as a by-product of that, that's authentic to you.

And then I'm listening to Michael Dell, who's a phenomenal entrepreneur, even when he was like young, like right away, like when he was like 19, he was like making millions and millions of dollars. And so he's running this crazy company in Austin and it's just exploding. And he's still in college. And he winds up recruiting like an older, more experienced, you know, C-suite executive to help him.

And then I'm listening to Michael Dell, who's a phenomenal entrepreneur, even when he was like young, like right away, like when he was like 19, he was like making millions and millions of dollars. And so he's running this crazy company in Austin and it's just exploding. And he's still in college. And he winds up recruiting like an older, more experienced, you know, C-suite executive to help him.

And then I'm listening to Michael Dell, who's a phenomenal entrepreneur, even when he was like young, like right away, like when he was like 19, he was like making millions and millions of dollars. And so he's running this crazy company in Austin and it's just exploding. And he's still in college. And he winds up recruiting like an older, more experienced, you know, C-suite executive to help him.

And the guy helps him for a few years and he burns out real fast. He's not sleeping. He's gaining weight. And he's like, Michael, I love you, but like, I have to, I have to take a break. I can't do this. I have to like leave the company. And Michael says, felt the opposite. Like he's working all hours of the day.

And the guy helps him for a few years and he burns out real fast. He's not sleeping. He's gaining weight. And he's like, Michael, I love you, but like, I have to, I have to take a break. I can't do this. I have to like leave the company. And Michael says, felt the opposite. Like he's working all hours of the day.

And the guy helps him for a few years and he burns out real fast. He's not sleeping. He's gaining weight. And he's like, Michael, I love you, but like, I have to, I have to take a break. I can't do this. I have to like leave the company. And Michael says, felt the opposite. Like he's working all hours of the day.

He's going to the full limit, but he, what he realized and he put it better than I did. He's like, Oh, the difference was I built a business that was natural to me. This is how I naturally want to spend my time. This is what I'm naturally interested in. This is what I'm naturally obsessed with. This is what I'm natural, what I naturally want my life to be.

He's going to the full limit, but he, what he realized and he put it better than I did. He's like, Oh, the difference was I built a business that was natural to me. This is how I naturally want to spend my time. This is what I'm naturally interested in. This is what I'm naturally obsessed with. This is what I'm natural, what I naturally want my life to be.

He's going to the full limit, but he, what he realized and he put it better than I did. He's like, Oh, the difference was I built a business that was natural to me. This is how I naturally want to spend my time. This is what I'm naturally interested in. This is what I'm naturally obsessed with. This is what I'm natural, what I naturally want my life to be.

I'm like, natural is a better word than authentic. Yes. And I think what I took away from your conversation with Chris was like, he built a life that was natural to him.

I'm like, natural is a better word than authentic. Yes. And I think what I took away from your conversation with Chris was like, he built a life that was natural to him.

I'm like, natural is a better word than authentic. Yes. And I think what I took away from your conversation with Chris was like, he built a life that was natural to him.

I actually have an interesting tangent I think you might enjoy. I read a book. So I was obsessed with Arnold Schwarzenegger. I love Arnold. And his autobiography that he wrote when he was 70 called Total Recall is excellent, right? But what's even better is he wrote an autobiography when he was 30 that people don't think of as an autobiography. It's called The Education of a Bodybuilder, right?