Cara Swisher

I am not of that camp.

I think it's just buggy and they're having problems.

I wouldn't put it past them to do all manner of shitty things.

But in this case, I think it's just this shift over.

Talk about this because there are also indications that TikTok's user base is declining and that its momentum is declining.

So talk a little bit about this because a lot of people are worried about it becoming a propaganda tool.

I am less worried because I feel like it has – I know I'm going to get a call from Zenya Mooja in a second, but I feel like it has a MySpace vibe to it.

But your thoughts.

It's big.

It's still enormous, but I think meta has the momentum with Instagram and threads, et cetera.

That's my guess.

Yeah, I would agree.

I think the energy is dragged out of it.

And, you know, the question is what's effective as these things.

And as much, you know, I have so much disdain for Mark Zuckerberg, although he has an opportunity.

See, I was thinking this.

Remember when Gates, everyone hated Gates, he was Darth Vader, etc.

?

Mark has an opportunity to turn himself around.

That's my feeling.