Cara Swisher

And, you know, Mark Zuckerberg used to always talk about China.

the challenge from China.

And in affiliating so tightly with Trump, I think it creates a backlash that's going to be sustained, especially not doing anything about teen girls, about kids, around chatbots, around everything.

I think they're essentially putting themselves as the bad guy, the baddies.

And they don't have to be.

There's an opportunity for them to

You know, I suppose Carnegie did that, as evil as all those people were.

As you said, they moved into a more— No police obliged.

Yeah.

That's exactly, except for the sort of true believers who are just terrible people.

When this happens, our tech industry has been the leader in terms of the stock market.

Where does this go?

Because the numbers still say, even Tesla, whose sales numbers are falling off a cliff, and obviously that's a meme stock, so there's nothing to be done about that.

But what happens with these tech numbers, even as they grow higher?

Tourism is a bigger industry than manufacturing, everybody.

Exactly.

Yeah, if they behave.

Anyway, all right, Anthony, one more quick break.

We'll be back for wins and fails.

Okay, Anthony, let's hear some wins and fails.