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Cari Cesarotti

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
424 total appearances

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Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

Yeah, I think there's a lot of push and pull that needs to happen in the community right now is that, you know, we need precision, but we also need discoveries. We need experimental evidence, but we also need motivating theories and having sort of the most diverse pool of ways that we can sort of approach these problems that we don't really have a clear answer to or a clear way of proceeding on.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

Yeah, I think there's a lot of push and pull that needs to happen in the community right now is that, you know, we need precision, but we also need discoveries. We need experimental evidence, but we also need motivating theories and having sort of the most diverse pool of ways that we can sort of approach these problems that we don't really have a clear answer to or a clear way of proceeding on.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

I think that that's going to be the most robust way to find success.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

I think that that's going to be the most robust way to find success.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

Oh, absolutely. There is no textbook that you can buy. There's no IKEA manual to how to build a particle collider. And so much of what's taught is just passed down between groups and training individuals and things like that. So I think sometimes it's a little bit

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

Oh, absolutely. There is no textbook that you can buy. There's no IKEA manual to how to build a particle collider. And so much of what's taught is just passed down between groups and training individuals and things like that. So I think sometimes it's a little bit

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

I go back and forth about how seriously I should wait this because yeah, part of it, if you just kind of sell it like that, then it feels like, okay, well you just want to keep the field of particle physics alive so that you have a job. Um, but it is just, it is much more profound.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

I go back and forth about how seriously I should wait this because yeah, part of it, if you just kind of sell it like that, then it feels like, okay, well you just want to keep the field of particle physics alive so that you have a job. Um, but it is just, it is much more profound.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

I think is that if you want to keep particle physics alive so that there's the possibility to have a collider, if we make a lot of progress in one, one area or another, um, then you need to preserve the, the knowledge.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

I think is that if you want to keep particle physics alive so that there's the possibility to have a collider, if we make a lot of progress in one, one area or another, um, then you need to preserve the, the knowledge.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

Yeah. So I think I think, again, this is something I've definitely become the person that I feel like wants to have a foot, at least in both camps, in terms of understanding sort of where these machines lie in terms of likelihood and progress and physics goals and things like that.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

Yeah. So I think I think, again, this is something I've definitely become the person that I feel like wants to have a foot, at least in both camps, in terms of understanding sort of where these machines lie in terms of likelihood and progress and physics goals and things like that.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

So a muon collider versus an E plus E minus collider can have similar physics programs, but there's definitely strengths for one versus the other. So if you're just comparing E plus E minus and not like a future LHC at a much higher energy, the energy frontier is something completely new.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

So a muon collider versus an E plus E minus collider can have similar physics programs, but there's definitely strengths for one versus the other. So if you're just comparing E plus E minus and not like a future LHC at a much higher energy, the energy frontier is something completely new.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

So if you just want to see new physics directly produced above a couple hundred GeV, you need a muon collider for that. And if you want to see it produced with fundamental particles, you can't even compare it to a proton-proton machine. And just for comparison, if you were to build a 10 TeV muon collider, which sounds less than the LHC because that's 14, but because protons are composite...

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

So if you just want to see new physics directly produced above a couple hundred GeV, you need a muon collider for that. And if you want to see it produced with fundamental particles, you can't even compare it to a proton-proton machine. And just for comparison, if you were to build a 10 TeV muon collider, which sounds less than the LHC because that's 14, but because protons are composite...

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

A 10 TeV muon collider would be comparable to the physics for the average collision that you can get out of something like a 70 or 80 TeV, if not more proton-proton machine. So that 100 TeV number that you might hear thrown around by China and CERN would be comparable to a 14 TeV muon collider.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

A 10 TeV muon collider would be comparable to the physics for the average collision that you can get out of something like a 70 or 80 TeV, if not more proton-proton machine. So that 100 TeV number that you might hear thrown around by China and CERN would be comparable to a 14 TeV muon collider.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

So the fact that these are composite particles makes a big difference in terms of what energies are accessible. Yeah. So the energy frontier, you just need it. And there's a million theories that you can test. You can do things that have to do with SUSE. You can do things that are just extensions of the electroweak sector.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
289 | Cari Cesarotti on the Next Generation of Particle Experiments

So the fact that these are composite particles makes a big difference in terms of what energies are accessible. Yeah. So the energy frontier, you just need it. And there's a million theories that you can test. You can do things that have to do with SUSE. You can do things that are just extensions of the electroweak sector.