Carl

You've got to say, what is the vision?

And in this hour and a half podcast,

He lays out some really in-depth things of what they're looking to do, why they're doing certain things.

So I think before you get into the information stuff, listen to this.

It was put out yesterday.

Very, very good interview.

He goes everything from how they allocate compute, why they're talking about...

scaling over pre-trained versus not pre-trained.

The interviewer asked him specifically about Gemini 3, and his response was like, hey, we've got a bunch of models internally that already beat it.

It's just we're going to release it, and we're going to release the one which is even better.

And the thing is, when he's talking, it's not like...

it's like talking like a researcher rather than it's like a CEO who's trying to, you know, hype your company.

It's very, very like, this is why we do things.

He asked about like the coup, what happened during that time and how essentially he's, he was able to keep in the research side close to, or if I don't know what it was, a hundred percent of his staff, like they actually did at 2 a.m.

Everybody signed the memos like, hey, we've got a mission.

This is our mission.

I know everyone's trying to pilfer you and stuff.

We're all in it together.

And from what he was saying, everyone was in it.

And that's what they were talking about.